By SmokingMina | July 31, 2009 - 11:49 am - Posted in Rants / Bitchery

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I’ve seen several comments and/or references over the years, on blogs, messageboards, and many other places indicating that having a paysite in connection with porn and fetish work somehow indicates “fakery” and that only someone doing it for the “pure love” of it (aka:  free) can truly be considered to be a woman who “understands.”  Often specifically:  someone who “understands the smoking fetish.”

To my mind, the fact that I have been willing to put thousands of dollars into cameras, webcams, costumes, props, and expensive American cigarettes NOT available in Canada (not to mention 8 fucking years of my life) should indicate just the opposite:  such dedication to and genuine interest that I want to be sure I can provide the best possible medium to show it off, whether it be the fun Joe and I have fucking or my genuine love of smoking cigarettes for those who enjoy watching a woman smoke.

Asking that people then pay to see it is basic common sense.  I’m not rich.  I have an idea for something that requires large expenditures, thus I should probably make sure I get something back for it.

Duh.

  • Each of the 13 webcams in my home cost anywhere from $35 to $150.  Since $35 often gives you a piece of shit webcam with crappy picture quality, most of them have cost towards the end of the spectrum.
  • Each of the 5 camcorders we have gone through to capture video over the years has cost anywhere from $500 to $2500.  The two most recent we shoot with were each $2500.  The others cost money and are now gathering dust, having become  obsolete.  That’s life with technology.
  • Joe’s lights, umbrellas, tripods, lenses = who the hell knows?  He might.  I don’t.  And now he needs a new camera, btw.
  • Bandwidth and just HAVING an internet connection costs me (just ME — Joe has his own) almost $300 a month.
  • American cigarettes I get from American site members willing to send me some as gifts. Then I give them free memberships to cover the expense.   They do not ask for this.  I do it as a courtesy and a thank-you.
  • Hosting costs us hundreds of dollars a month.
  • 6 computers to run it all:   $600 to $1400 each.
  • Lingerie, costumes, holders, high heel shoes (shoes alone: $40 – $80 a pair) all cost money.

Then there is the time factor:  operating paysites = making a promise to the public to provide regularly scheduled quality updates in gallery or video form.

  • Each “shoot” =  a minimum of 3 hours. Three hours that I am NOT out somewhere else working and making money.
  • Editing, uploading video: 4 hours a week, twice a week.
  • Weekly camshow:  time spent getting ready/time on camera 2 hours.  Time spent doing my hair or painting my face, when I could just sit like a lump on my couch in gympants.  OR be out somewhere else making money.  At a job.  That pays.

To say nothing of about 30 more hours a week spent on promotion, answering email, geeky maintenance, and god knows what else.   This time and expense, to me, should indicate the HIGHEST dedication to and love of sex and the smoking fetish possible to you.

Then there is the  general impact on my life from the fact that I openly and publicly run sex sites and will usually admit to doing so when asked.   I’m not snapping a few sneaky pictures to post on yahoo with my face blurred.  I’m right fucking out there in crystal clear clarity, advertising my ass all over the internet as MINA THE PORN FETISH SEX CHICK WHO SMOKES AND FUCKS LIVE ON 13 WEBCAMS ALL OVER HER HOUSE.

Which to many people  (including several members of our friends and families) STILL translates to dirty, skanky PORN WHORE.  I have put myself out there publicly and thus have had to deal with a level of disdain, disrespect, and prejudice that some casual yahoo poster will never have to know about.  My face isn’t blurred, and neither is my twat — it’s right there, and anyone who surfs for porn will eventually find me and see it all.

You’d think that would put us on an even playing field right? If they’re LOOKING for porn, how is that any different than CREATING and SELLING porn?   The difference lies between my legs.  Because I have a vagina, it is somehow assumed that the ability to intelligently and calculatedly attach a monetary value to it and then ASK for it somehow renders me “less” than what a woman “should” be.  Something must be wrong with me.  Women (it is presumed) who can that cold-bloodedly sell their ass to thousands of strangers must be (insert your favorite degradation here).

Just as (in the opinion of many) Joe is a cool motherfucker for taking pictures of naked women and selling them, I am most likely to be considered a loser skank for doing it. The double standard exists.  Men in porn are studs, women are mindless sluts.  A man who can take a picture of a naked woman and command a price for it is a savvy, intelligent, business-smart motherfucker.  A woman who would pose for that picture (or WORSE!!) sell it herself must have something wrong with her.

I get hit on by men who should fucking well know better.  I get treated like a dirty joke.  I get my name used by family members when they want to keep their children in line, because “god forbid you turn out like your aunt.”  I get touched.  I get grabbed.  I get snickered at when I try to explain that spreading my legs for a lens is the LEAST of the work I do.

So let’s recap, shall we?  I’m supposed to spend (over an 8 year period) thousands of dollars on technology/equipment/whatever, spent 40 hours a week in total isolation in my office without the usual social opportunity to make friends, be treated like a stupid whore for doing it, and THEN hand out the results for free lest it be assumed that I am not truly DEDICATED to the exhibition of my own sex life and smoking fetish????

FUCK YOU.

YOU try it then.  And let’s see how “dedicated” you are.  Odds are you won’t last for more than 3 updates before you realize just how much work it is (or you go broke trying to make content people won’t label as “looking like shit”).  And the first time some asshole (who is probably someone you considered a friend) grabs your wife’s ass because “what the fuck, you guys said you do porn???” let’s see how you feel.

That you should consider me as “less” of a performer than some bored bitch on yahoo posting 2 blurry pictures because she had a fight with her husband that day and she wants to “show him” indicates more ignorance than you will ever know.

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6 Comments

  1. July 31, 2009 @ 6:48 PM


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  2. July 31, 2009 @ 11:10 PM


    Ah, man. Sorry Mina, and I suspect I know what person (and where) put you over the edge on this topic, though I don’t think said person (if I’m right) meant any harm. All I know is the moment I get a boost in my client work again, such that I’m not worried about keeping the lights on, I need to support your little empire with some more cash.
    ;-)

    Seriously, though, as a freelance work-at-home person myself, I know how people can get it twisted JUST about how nice it must be to just be able to sit around the house and work.

    Add in the fact that what YOU do gets slapped with value judgments from several directions, and things get worse, because then they figure you must just be hanging around the house being a useless slut.

    I don’t have much to say except that while you may be disrespected by many, I suspect there is a lot of genuine affection and respect felt by many who follow you. You are a truly honest, open and genuine person from what I glean…and that’s an awfully cool thing, in or out of the porn world.

    I’m shaking my head at the relatives. OK, I’m not really, because I have sketchy relatives myself who would probably do a lesser version if they knew what I was doing with my spare time, writing fetish fiction and hanging out at fetish sites. But they wouldn’t want your nieces/nephews to end up like you, right? You know, entreprenurial, in a solid relationship, enjoying your work…God, what a horror! :-P

    You deserve to be paid, let there be no doubt. You almost certainly deserve more than what you’ve been bringing in so far. Here’s to a better economic climate, better attitudes…and a bright future for Mina & Joe’s little corner of the world.

    Posted by Smokedawg
  3. August 1, 2009 @ 4:24 AM


    Aw, thanks for the support hon! Would love to have back you anytime, but the respect of the work is MUCH more important!

    Actually, the “trigger” wasn’t really anyone in particular; I (and several other webmasters/webmistresses as well it seems) have seen this prejudice before. Something about the combination of female sexuality and seizing ownership of it THEN daring to put a price tag on it just drives some people crazy. That double standard again: a guy doing it is a stud; a woman doing it is an evil slut. Apparently we’re supposed to romanticize every twitch of a dick in our direction.

    And so I do. Joe’s dick. Every time it twitches, it’s romantic as HELL. All others, however, must pay for the privilege, especially if they expect to twitch over HD content and an assload of spycams. I’m not running a charity organization.

    As far as my family goes, the hilarious thing is that those with the most to say know me the least. Piss on them. Blood is nothing to me; usually all it means is “I can treat you like shit and you have to take it.” *shrug* I don’t play that game either.

    The family I’ve created on my own — that of Joe, TRUE family members, friends both on and offline — and their support more than makes up for the few bad apples we all end up with. Everything they say says more about them than it does me.

    Thanks again darling! Muuahs, Mina xoxoxo

    Posted by SmokingMina
  4. August 1, 2009 @ 4:27 AM


    Miss Darling (and so many others who did as well), thanks soo much for the re-tweet! It’s comforting (although rather unfortunate) to see how many people this rang a bell for.

    Mina xoxoxox

    Posted by SmokingMina
  5. August 1, 2009 @ 8:46 PM


    The funny thing is, I so much PREFER sites where the woman doing the posing (or at least much of the posing) is the one running the joint. Or that she at least has ownership of it on a total or significant level.

    Because that makes me feel far more confident that she isn’t being exploited, and that eases my conscience as a porn consumer.

    I know some people would think that’s weird: Making morality/conscience-based decisions as to where I get my porn. But being a politically liberal person who’s also a Christian (and a deacon) who writes erotica and is a cheerleader for the postives of porn already makes me weird on so many levels, I suppose. ;-)

    Posted by Smokedawg
  6. August 8, 2009 @ 10:07 AM


    That just makes you a conscientious porn fan, darling. And the ability to delineate your appreciation of erotica from your spiritual beliefs just means you’ve got the common sense to realize that, whatever “god” one may believe in, I doubt very much he’s sitting around waiting to swat porn fans like flies.

    Those of us with the ability to see all facets are often considered “weird” by those who see only in black and white *wink*.

    Posted by SmokingMina

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